Episode 30: How to Self-Publish with Michelle Jackson

Michelle Jackson 0:00

I think a lot of times in the personal finance space, people talk at you versus remembering where they came from. Like the further you get from the hard times, the easier it is forget. And I really want to empower people to make money online selling what they already know. We have the internet. We have all this power at the tips of our fingers. And I think a lot of people way overthink how that looks. That is one of the things I'm really focused on. And then the third thing is to inspire people to make more money.

Acquania Escarne 0:38

You are listening to the Purpose of Money Podcast, a podcast where we talk about ways to build wealth and create more freedom in your life. today. I am your host, Acquania Escarne.

Hey, guys, welcome back to the Purpose of Money Podcast. I'm so excited. This week, we have special guest, Michelle Jackson. Michelle runs the website and podcast, Michelle is Money Hungry. Her primary focus is to help empower her community of blog readers and podcast listeners to monetize what they already know, and live their best life. Michelle, welcome to the show. I'm so glad to have you.

Michelle Jackson 1:22

Thank you so much for having me. I'm just excited to talk to your audience and hopefully get them inspired.

Acquania Escarne 1:28

Yes. Today we're going to talk about self publishing books, which is something Michelle has done on more than one occasion. She is an author. And I asked her to share some of these tips because I personally have been battling with myself on how soon Should I get my story out there? And how should I get a book out there? And a lot of people ask these same questions. They're wondering what's the best way to go about it? So before we dive into that conversation, let's first learn a little bit more about you.

Michelle Jackson 2:06

Okay, so Hi, everyone. My name is Michelle Jackson, I am a blogger and podcaster actually run two very different projects. One is about Colorado. It's called Square State. And there's blog and podcast for that. And then this project that I'm focused on that I'm sharing with you guys today is called Michelle is Money Hungry. And the primary focus are three things. One is really helping people to design their best lives, because other people won't do it for you. To empower people with money and do that in an empathetic way. I think a lot of times in the personal finance space, people talk at you versus remembering where they came from. Like the further you get from the hard times, the easier it is forget. And I really want to empower people to make money online selling what they already know. We have the internet we have all this power at the tips of our fingers. And I think a lot of people way overthink how that looks is that is one of the things I'm really focused on. And then the third thing is to inspire people to make more money. When I chose the name, Michelle is Money Hungry. That was the second name of this project after several years. So I started the project under a totally different name, which I'm not going to mention because it's gone. And I rebranded it. And the reason why I rebranded it with I think a slightly an a name that might get a reaction is because I wanted to always tell myself that I'm allowed to want more. It's not one of those greed is good kind of situations. It's one of those. The idea is that you're allowed to make more money so that you can help yourself so you can save money. So you can empower yourself financially so that you can pay off your debt so you can invest for your future so you can help your family out. I've had to help out my family financially, I support it. My mom and I while working at Starbucks because my mom lost her job, and I was going to graduate school. So when I say this, it's not just to be like, I'm greedy. It's to be like, Look, these things come into your life, and you need to have money to deal with it. And so I had gotten very aware that we talk a lot about lower- lowering expenses as personal finance people, but we don't spend enough time talking about raising income. And so that is why the project is called Michelle is Money Hungry? I'm from Colorado, and I know that's weird, which is why I like to share it because I'm African American. The mayor has been black, but he's been reelected three times. So there's a lot of interesting stuff about that. And that's why I started the website, Square State as well. And when I'm not doing this stuff that I'm doing, you can find me either traveling once the 'Rona is gone. Or I'm in the mountains, hiking, skiing, camping, I do all the things. So yeah!

Acquania Escarne 5:11

I definitely feel your pain. I'm an avid traveler, and my first three trips for 2020, were all canceled one after another. And I am really striking out, I am adjusting. I've tried to do staycations in the midst of Corona, but I actually only did that one last weekend. I took an hour and a half drive with my family to a house that I rented, where we could sit there and stay in the house all day. But we had movie night and we cooked and we just disconnected. So there is something to be said about change of scenery. So I can appreciate the pain, or I can empathize with you on the fact that you haven't been able to travel, but times will change. Things will get better. I want to know more about your first book. So tell me, what's it called? Where do we find it? And how did you do it?

Michelle Jackson 6:09

So I run a Academy called Make Money with ebooks Academy. And I also run a course with the same name. And I actually wrote my first book, which was, I want to say time up a...God now I'm gonna have to think about this. It's about moving to Denver, actually. And it is not the book that kicked off everything, but I made money with it. And it was very straightforward. I found that people were asking me a lot of questions about Colorado, and I got tired of answering them. And I was like, "I'm tired of you, I need to do something so that I don't always have to answer these freaking questions. And if I make money, great." And so I wrote down like all the questions that I was getting. And then I just wrote a book and I thought of all the things that I would want to know, if I were going to move to a new city, even though I live here now, I've lived in other places. So I've lived in France, I've lived in Canada, I've lived in Japan as a kid, I've traveled quite a bit. So I wasn't unfamiliar with the notion of if I were going to move to a new place, like what are the things that I care about. And so I wrote a book addressing all the things I could think of, and I put it online, and I sold it on gumroad, actually, which I think is a great platform. But it has pluses and minuses. But it's a great platform, where you are basically in charge of everything with that, like you just get it on there and you sell it. And I would every once in a while people would purchase the book, they still purchase the book, I need to update it, because there's things that have changed since I originally wrote the book. And I've actually changed that book from gumroad to Amazon. I really love that book, because it made me understand that I could put something out there, and that it would help people. My first real book, though, was the Biggest Snail in the World. And I wrote that in second grade.

And money was on my mind. And two because the snail had two babies and two giant tunnels in our body, one for a gold tunnel and one for silver. So actually, this other book was like my second book.

Acquania Escarne 8:28

Okay!

Michelle Jackson 8:29

But I write both. I write both fiction and nonfiction books. And I decided to write a fiction book because I really liked romances. And I should say, in 2018, I decided to implement all of the online ways of making money that I was personally intrigued by and my thought was either it would work or wouldn't. And I think most people get really stuck on thinking about all the reasons why it won't work, and they won't implement anything. And it makes me crazy. So because you can't learn if you don't implement. As infants, we start walking, we crawl and then we walk, we stand up, we fall and we stand up and we fall. It's the same thing with any skill. And writing a book, whether it's fiction or nonfiction, quite honestly, it's the same thing. So I decided to try all of these different things. And I wrote this fiction book. And the reason why I did was this romance book, I was like, I'm reading these books online, and I can do just just as good a job. And, and there are stories that I want to see with people who look like me in them. Now that may not be your motivation, because again, fiction and nonfiction books are very different. But for me as a woman of color, I was like, I read across genres like I want to I'm a prolific reader. My mom started me When I was like itty bitty, but she had me like playing reading with the Wall Street Journal serious, she was not playing around. And I started school in Japan as a small child, I'm only child. And so with only children, most parents will try to like, get you acclimated to people. So they want you to be able to, you know, connect with people. So a lot of times, what they'll do, those parents will do is put you in school, like really young, like preschool and stuff. So I started school in Japan, really like young like two, two and a half, not a week, but a couple hours a day, a couple times a week. And so her focus was really on reading. My mom's focus was reading, getting me to read, and she loved it. And quite honestly, again, I'm a person of color, like being able to read for many years, was he legal? So I think that part of why this was so important to my mom was one, she knew how many people were trying to keep people of color from learning and being educated and to read, but also because stories were the way that my mom escaped a really hard home life. And so for her, the written word was really powerful. And she passed that love on to me. So when I wrote this story, I was like, I want to pick a genre that's lucrative, and romance in general is lucrative. But I was like, "I'm gonna pick something that's lucrative. And I want to write stories that I want to read." I'm not into there's all these different genres. And there were certain genres, I was like, "I don't understand why this is a thing and why this is so popular. And it's, it doesn't fit me." But it didn't mean that genre wasn't relevant and meant, it just meant that I needed to write something for other for the women like me, who also have happened to be of color or not, who were like, "We want to see your character." So I wrote the book. And the first month, I wrote my book, and published it, I made $540. And that was a big deal to me, because my mortgage is $595. I live in a really nice area, I just bought a really awkward property. But that's another conversation anyway. And so for me, I was like, Oh, wait. That was my almost a mortgage. That was two months of groceries. That was six months of a different service. That was like something I really noticed, because I've made money with the other book, but 540 bucks, I was like, Oh, wait a minute, this is something, maybe I made 500 bucks every month, that's still that's a car payment. That's a student loan payment for people with big student loans. That's like money that you could save for an overseas trip, because that's $6,000 in a year.

Acquania Escarne 12:49

Can I just back up for a second? Because I want listeners to understand the dynamics of what you're saying and how powerful it is. The book you wrote about Colorado was purely based on the fact that a lot of people have asked me the same question. So it's equivalent to doing market research, even though at the time you probably weren't even thinking that doing market research. Realizing that there's a demand, everyone keeps asking me same questions about Colorado, and I am living here breathing it, loving it. Let me talk about it. So the fact that you even thought to get past, answering people's questions all the time for free, and actually monetizing It is really powerful. And you did mention like that is one of the things you're trying to do on your platform is encourage people to monetize the stuff they know really well. And you knew Colorado really well enough to write a book about it, and people were interested enough to buy it. But I also like the fact that you, once you've mastered the skill, or at least enough that you knew you could do it, then you started to explore what personally drives you, which is I want to read stuff similar to what I'm interested in by people of color like me, and storylines that I like. I think that's important. And I think that it's bold, and the fact that you also connected it to, hey, this could actually pay my bills. This is not this could be more than a hobby. So let's talk about more of that feeling for you. The fact that you were bold enough to write it and then to publish it. Did you have any challenges? It sounds like it went really well. You put it out and you made a lot of money your first month, but were there any setbacks that you had to work through?

Michelle Jackson 14:40

No, because the mindsets always the biggest challenge so if my mind and I should mention that Colorado book was published, like a year or two before this, okay, so it wasn't like back to back. It was just I publish it. In fact, I think it was 2017 when I published that book, and then in 2018, I was like, "Okay, I'm going to try all these different things." Because I tried a lot of stuff. The mindset for everything is the biggest hurdle. So mindset for paying off your bills, mindset for being bold mindset for trying to earn more. Once you get the mindset going, you're fine. I think people will with books like publishing and creative content, whether it's a fiction or nonfiction book, because again, I do both. You may think what if I get bad reviews? You will definitely get bad reviews because people have opinions. So it just is what it is. What if no one buys it? Then you have to rework why why is it that people aren't buying it? Are you positioning it the right way? Is it is doesn't have the right cover does have the right title? Does it have the right keywords in the description? Do you understand how people search for content on all these websites, which are basically search engines? Do you understand what search engines are? And I because of all the blogging and stuff, I understood that when I sold my products, I understood search engine optimization and basically the words that I wanted to use or should use to drive people organically to my product. So when I made that 500 bucks, I didn't pay for marketing. I still don't I hardly pay to market my books, because they've been like, one of the things that because I make money in multiple ways. So I believe that it's important to try and make money selling things before you start to pay with Facebook ads and stuff like that. And the reason why is, you get a much better feel for what people are looking for, how they find you, you have a lot more conversations with people about your products. And that could be for anything, it could be for your coaching, your course, your whatever, you I just feel like a lot of people think, "whoo, I'm going to drop this product and then use Facebook ads. And that's it." And I think that your Facebook ads actually aren't going to be as they're not going to convert as well, because you don't know how to sell without the ads. So a lot of my friends now are doing quite well selling things. But they spend a lot of time before they drop cash on ads, having a lot of organic conversations with people. So now because I've spent time doing things, what I do converts better, because I know what I need to do. And I've talked to enough people. So now I'm a lot more comfortable with the idea of, "Yeah, I totally would pay for Facebook ads, or AMS ads if you're on Amazon or both." Because I will understand who I'm targeting versus just throwing spaghetti on the wall and just see what happens to me. Those stories where you know, an entrepreneur knocks on a door each door trying to sell a thing. And that's the market research. And that's the face to face contact that you need, even with digital products. So what I would say is the biggest hurdle for anyone is mindset.

Acquania Escarne 17:54

I love that. I love that. And I like the fact that you made it very clear. Beyond the market research, it has to be good content, and it has to sell itself organically before or you recommend it sells itself organically before you start paying money for ads, because you'll have real genuine buyers who have connected with you and your material. And they're buying it because they want to support you or they need whatever it is that you're selling. And they found that it would be useful for them. So I really like that. And I think that's a very important aspect to highlight. because like you said, so many people are so quick to pay for ads, because they think I just need visibility, I just need phase out to put it in front of somebody, and then they're gonna buy it. But I agree with you that you want to have an organic following anyway. Because when you connect with a buyer, the first time if they really liked the product, they'll be with you and they'll follow you. So the next product and the next product, they'll continue to support it. So I like that. I think that's great. Thanks for sharing

Michelle Jackson 19:00

And I just, Oh, you're welcome. And I should say that first book. And my opinion is one of my is my worst book. But that first book has made me the most money. So if I hadn't put that book out there, I wouldn't at this point. Again, this was something I haven't focused on as a primary focus. And I think by the end of this year, I don't know, it's hard to say because I'm earning more at now I have more data and I think I'm gonna earn significantly more than I did last year. So I'm making a lot more money. But if I hadn't started, I wouldn't even have the data to know what not to do what to do, you know?

Acquania Escarne 19:43

Yeah, no, that makes a lot of sense. So can you get into the specifics of how you go about it? So you dedicate your time and effort to writing a book? How long would you say it took you since I know it varies, but how long did it take you to write your first or your second book between the idea to the publishing and how did you actually get it out to the market? Are you using particular apps like Canva? Or are you printing at a print shop? Like how's this working?

Michelle Jackson 20:16

So I should say, I don't have any physical like, books I don't do right now, I'm not doing print on demand. I'm a little earth friendly. So I just don't see the need for that for romances. For my nonfiction, that will change because people do like to purchase physical copies of nonfiction books. And for that, I'm fine with doing like a print on demand. This is just my own personal philosophy. But quite honestly, I love ebooks, I think they're fast, they're easier to get out there. I think if you can't get an E book out, you're never going to get a print on demand out. Because it's just it's there's no barrier to entry, it makes it easiest thing you could do. I tend to be fast, even back then I was fast with that first book, it took me 23 hours to write that book, that romance book, because I know what I'm trying to do.

The longer I mess around, the longer it is between me and getting something out there that can make me money. So I don't have time to be playful with this, like I it's a business. And I'm trying to do a thing. And it has it serves a purpose. Likewise, with my nonfiction books. Right now I have a nonfiction book that just released. I have to fix it, which is fine. But I pushed myself on it. And the reason why is I have a lot of content, I can leverage that book in that book is unironically named Time to Visit Denver. And at the time of recording this, it's a pandemic. But I had planned that book prior to the pandemic. And what I did, because it's a digital book, is I thought about all the things that people would need, like I was already going to publish this book anyway. But I tweaked the content up so that it's relevant to now. So things like where to go to the bathroom. That's a big thing. We used to have bathrooms everywhere, you could go anywhere, right? That's not the case anymore. You can't just pop into places our restaurants just opened up to in person dining at 50%. What does that mean? Where do you go if you're into that? I am not. But I'm willing to eat on a patio. Denver has a huge patio culture, knowing about where the patios are and which ones are open. That's all relevant now. So when I was crafting out my book, I was like, "What do people need to know like right now, like, real time?" And the cool thing about a digital book is I can upload a new manuscript, if you will, tomorrow. So I can update it really quickly. So if there's an issue, so say, in fact, this happened once I uploaded the unedited manuscript for a book, and they read it and they were like, "It's got problems." I was like, "ooh." So I got a bad review, which was fine. I uploaded it. And I was like, thank you so much to the person who let me know about this, accidentally uploaded the the unedited copy, I appreciate you. That's it, boom, we're done. And people buy that book all the time. So I think that what people need to understand is, if you build it, they will come if it makes sense. Now, if I was writing a book, like Time to Visit Denver, but nothing addresses what's happening now, that makes no sense. You have to be nimble with your content. If it's nonfiction, if it's fiction, you just have to understand what people are wanting and the genres that you're writing in. If you're wanting to share a story, like a personal story, or something that's like mission driven, as long as your mission still important to you, and is relevant. Get it out there. Like, it just makes me crazy that people wait, because back in the, actually, even now, you have to go for a traditional publishing a traditionally published book, you have to go through gatekeepers, in order to get someone to validate your idea. With self published, think about it that you don't just sit send a manuscript, they're like, "Yes, we love it. This is great. "That does work. But that's not how it works. You have to first of all, get through the the secretary, right, who goes through the manuscripts, then then she's like, yes, no. And then she forwards it to the next person. Before it even gets to the person who does the editing and publish like before they would even connect with you it might go through three people. So I don't have time to wait for you to validate me. I'm not going to do that. I have an audience of people who validate what I'm doing. And even before I did, in the genre, the genres that I write in, I could see that they were valid. Because there were other books in them. So what I would say is, if you're wondering if your content is valid, yes, but then also do some research look to see if there are other books about that. Do you know how many books there are about money? Tons of books about thousands and thousands, millions of books about money. How many books there are about people like individual people, autobiographies. But how many books are there with a black girl and young adult dystopian novels? Not as many. And there are a lot of us who love that kind of genre. So I have to write that book. I don't have time for you to validate that, because clearly, people haven't been, which is why I don't see myself on those books, right?

Acquania Escarne 25:42

Yes. So I'm not waiting anyone else to validate you.

Michelle Jackson 25:46

I don't.

Acquania Escarne 25:47

A quote to live by. And I think it's very important advice. So how do you decide the pricing for your books?

Michelle Jackson 25:55

I have a hard and fast rule that I will never price my books less than a cup of coffee, ever. And if you cannot afford at least$2.99 for my book, just keep to stepping. That's all right.

Acquania Escarne 26:12

That's fine.

Michelle Jackson 26:13

I like that, you know, so for my fiction books, in particular, they're $2.99 to $3.99. For my nonfiction books, there's one that I'm about to edit I on ironically called How to host an in person Event. And I actually have all these interviews that I recorded right before that books published. But I had added some I had recorded a whole bunch of podcasts interviews with huge event planners, right in February. And we did actually a couple of those interviews, we did talk about Coronavirus, but I'm adding that audio content like links to that audio content, I have to add maybe one more piece where I talk about because I've hosted in person events, international events where people from overseas have come here. So that book is going to be a lot more than what I'm charging now. Because I'm gonna have all that audio from actual event planners of events like podcast movement, that's a huge event, and to have an hour hours worth of content from the guy who runs that, you need to pay more. My friend Sandy Smith runs the Elevate Influencer. It's a event is still pretty new, its event for people of color and the personal finance space, specifically influencers. And so she spoke with me for an hour for that book. And it would not make sense for me to have five different event planners, like people who host these events, five hours worth of content that could save people a lot of money, a lot of heartache a lot of mistakes, and not charge accordingly. So that book is probably going to be like $19.99, easily, maybe even $29.99. Why? Because I got all that information that you would have to pay a lot of money to be in front of those people, for them to coach you on what you would need to do to run a good event. It really depends on what you're trying to do what you have in the book, what is the problem that it solves for people, if it's nonfiction, you have to play around with it. So I could charge that kind of money for the book. And then people could be like, "Oh, my God," and then okay, I'll get the feedback. And I can make I can make adjustments. So I think the other thing to remember is it's not all set in stone, like you make the decision. And then you adjust just like with anything in life. So if I sit there and like you know what I'm charging $29.99 for that book. And the more I think about it, the more that's probably what it's going to be. In the blurb you communicate why, like, what the value is that people are getting, and then you sell it. And then you see what happens. And then if people are like, yo, that's a lot of money. I don't think it is, I ran an in person event for the first time. And that was a $10,000 event.

Okay, I had to make money on that event, I could not lose money on that event. Because I've been in a personal finance journey. I'm at the tail end of paying off debt, I could not add debt to my journey period. Like it was non negotiable. If someone had a $29 book for me to make sure that that I could have purchased to make sure that I don't screw everything up for a $10,000 event. Heck, yeah. You have to understand what you're bringing to people and you have to be 100% confident about it. So how I'm talking now about my pricing and my book and the value that I bring is very different than even if you talk to me a year ago, or a year two years ago, because I had to have small wins over and over again, in order to build the confidence. And I think this is important for people to remember like you don't.. some people come out of the womb confident, but it might like they're like confident about everything. But most of us are in the middle, like, we have to have the small wins over and over again. And then you have a loss. And you're like, "oh, God is so horrible." And then you like, have five more wins. And you're like, "Oh my god," like it's a back and forth. And so if you don't have that experience of winning, and having small wins over and over again, you can never build the confidence. You need to not give a crap. I would say another word, but I don't think because it's so my show I cuss but occasionally. So it's really important for me to get people to understand this. Have I had bad reviews? Absolutely. I actually published books during the pandemic. Do you know how bad that pandemic, especially in the beginning, was for creativity? It killed my creativity. But I had these books that had to get out because I set a goal for them. I got them out. I can fix them or choose not to be honest. The I wrote a whole series of books about the Olympics. I was working a strategy. And guess what the Olympics are not happening. Okay, so I have this whole series of books about the freakin Olympics. And this year, they're not happening. And when I told someone about this, I was like, "Yeah, like, that's a bummer." And they were like, are you going to unpublish them? Hell no I'm not unpublishing them? Why? Because there's going to be in the future. Oh, I focused on Summer Olympics in the series. Now I'm going to add probably not now, like I have two more books to finish that series. But sometime in the fall, I'll write one or two, maybe three books to add to it with winter sports. And then I'll tweak the covers whatever. And then whenever the Olympics come again, those books will sell. I won't have to worry, I will not have to write that because I'm ready. Oh, that's the other thing too. It's like, the more you do like, the more you put out your books, or the more you put out your blog content, or the more you put out your YouTube videos. The more you do, the more you create a back stock of items of content of things that you can leverage in different ways. So the more books that I have now, the more I can play around with them, because there's different things I can do. So for my nonfiction books, I have a series of books two or three to at least two books about podcasting. I am now writing a lot more content about podcasting. Why? Because I really love podcasting. And I've been a podcast mentor for this is now the second year in a row for a program that is being hosted here in Denver at a co-working space for podcasters. So the community is called house a pod. And the program is called Apt. And it's basically a program to help nurture women of color in the podcasting space. It's an incredible program to be a part of, it's great that it's in Denver, because there's like how many black people and Hispanics and Asians there's not many of us. So we've got this really cool program. They even have childcare. So if we meet in person, there's a nanny, too, so that people can still participate, and they have someone watching their kids. It's an amazing program. But as I do more things like that, as I speak at like podcast movement, like I did last year to standing room only, that is content. And I need to put it in a book and leverage it in more than one way so that I'm making more money. And it's it is right now. I'm gonna wear my personal finance hat right now it is we are I don't want to talk about semantics. Okay. We have 40 40 million people who have lost their jobs, and 40 million people. OF that 40 million, they are thinking that about 40% of those jobs are not coming back. Okay. 40%, that's 60 million jobs. If you have a skill, a book, a story A...just anything that you can sell online and start bringing in money, you have to. You have to take care of yourself. So for me, I have money coming. I've been working at this for a while. But can I tell you that I feel vindicated about focusing on how to bring in money separate from a nine to five and by the way, I don't have a nine to five, I'm my boss, I'm an entrepreneur now.

I have been for several years. But for me, I didn't want to sell physical products. I wanted to do everything digitally so that if I were in Bora, or in you know Colombia or in Iceland, I would always have money coming in. And those small amounts add up over time. So maybe you make 100 bucks a month. Maybe that's your coffee habit. Maybe you make 100 bucks a month and that pays for your services to build a platform, such as a podcast, so you're not out of pocket. And as you grow your podcast that you're making this little money, and then you get in front of people who find you because you wrote this book, and you end up getting a traditional publisher traditional publishing deal, because they're like, "Wow, we saw that you wrote this book, or we read it. We were really impressed. And we think you could do this for us in the traditional situation." Or maybe you can leverage I have a friend who wrote a book called Make Money, your Honey and my friend Amanda Abella. She's hilarious Latina and she self published her book. She never has had someone come up to her and go, ", have you did you like Self Publish or like, traditionally publish your book?" She's never had a reader. Do that to her. You know what that book has done, though. That's that book is open doors for her. It's helped other people. It's helped her leverage her brand, it's helped her earn more money with speaking gigs. She does corporate events. Why? Because she was bold enough to put it out there. So for those of you who are trying to have permission to do a thing, you just have to give yourself permission to do the thing. And get out of your own way.

Acquania Escarne 36:16

Absolutely. I love it. So before we leave the show today, can you please tell listeners how they can find you? How do we connect with Michelle is Money Hungry?

Michelle Jackson 36:26

So definitely you can find me on at MichelleIsMoneyHungry.com for my website and podcast. The podcast is on Stitcher, Apple and all the networks you can find me for the podcast. It's Michelle is Money Hungry. You can follow me on Instagram @MichelleisMoneyHungry. On Twitter, which I'm actually very active on. I'm on Twitter @Michlovesmoney. Mich loves money. Definitely I love connecting with people, I want you to win, I want you to be bold, I want you to take risks. Don't live in the shadows when you don't have to. I don't want you to not be bold, because it's scary. Life is scary. There's no guarantees. And if anything, this pandemic, we are you guys, we are limited. I can't even wrap my head around the fact that it is 2020. And this is something I have to deal with. So as long as I wake up each day, and I'm healthy, nothing else matters.

Acquania Escarne 37:31

I agree with you. I can't agree with you more. Thank you so much. I appreciate all the guidance you shared about self publishing, becoming an author, monetizing the things that you know and getting it out there. And I am an avid believer that we are all meant to create something special and unique just for us. And there are people waiting for you. So if you're someone out there who's been thinking about a book for a long time, I promise you, there's someone who's been waiting to read it. And they probably need to hear what you have to say now more than ever. So stop delaying stop procrastinating, get to writing, typing, creating, what it is that you were brought here to do, because we all have a purpose. And I really want to see everyone thrive and so does Michelle she is to help to support and check out her blog guys, check out her podcast, she's giving you a lot of gems that you can definitely use to get yourself to the next level financially and personally, Michelle, thank you so much for being on the show.

Michelle Jackson 38:38

And don't forget everyone, I do have How to Make Money with ebooks Academy. It's incredibly affordable. So it's a very affordable way to get the support you need to get your books out there. So yeah!

Acquania Escarne 38:47

Appreciate it. Check it out, everybody!

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