Episode 17: How to Build an Empire, Real Estate Summit of the Year

Acquania Escarne 0:00

You are listening to the Purpose of Money Podcast. How to Build an Empire: the Blueprint to Generational Wealth, an event hosted by Epiq Collective and Black Equity Network.

You are listening to the Purpose of Money podcast. A podcast where we talk about ways to build wealth and create more freedom in your life today. I am your host Acquania Escarne.

Welcome back to The Purpose of Money Podcast. I'm so excited to continue our conversation on Home Ownership as this is the month of June where we celebrate home ownership and inspiring people to pursue investing in real estate. Today I have two special guests named DJ Moultrie from Black Equity Network and Davonne Reaves, who is one half of a dynamic duo of Epiq Collective. Black Equity Network and Epiq Collective have joined to educate the masses about investing in real estate and building an empire. They are hosting a conference on June 30 from 10am to 4pm. To introduce you to all things real estate and going into estate planning, who do you need to have on your team,how to find the best deals and more.

DJ Moultrie from Black Equity Network is a native of Denver, Colorado, and has lived in Charlotte, North Carolina since 2012. Since 2018, DJ has been the Founder and Managing Partner of Black Equity Network, which has been responsible for the many strategic partnerships and alliances in the world of business and real estate acquisitions. His background and focus on community collaboration has led him to a number of volunteer opportunities and community leadership roles.

Davonne Reaves, our second guest is one of the two ladies who has founded Epiq Collective. Davonne is a hospitality industry veteran with over 10 years of experience in hotel operations, asset management, hotel development and feasibility studies. As a serial entrepreneur, Ms. Reaves founded a hotel consulting firm, commercial real estate investment fund, and has published a book. In 2017, Ms. Reaves founded the Vaughn Group, a consulting firm that specializes in premier hotel consulting, cutting edge market research, and innovative brand positioning. In 2018, Ms. Reaves added another accomplishment to her resume when she co- authored the book Tidbits for the Emerging Pineapple Professional, a guide for emerging hospitality professionals. Most recently in 2019, Miss Reaves co-founded Epic Collective, a commercial real estate investment fund that specializes in hotels, multifamily office and retail space. In her career, she has managed portfolios totaling over $1 billion in assets. Now without further ado, let's get into this conversation about how to build an empire.

Today we have DJ Moultrie of Black Equity Network. I've been on his podcast before talking about life insurance, black wealth, and all things real estate investing, so I'll definitely make sure to include that episode in the show notes. We're also joined here today by another special guest, Davonne Reaves, , who is one of the two dynamic ladies of Epiq Collective. Her partner is Jessica Meyers. Unfortunately, she couldn't join us here today. But we know Davonne is going to represent Epiq Collective and tell us all about what they do to help people get started in investing in real estate. They have the fortune of being involved already in hotel ownership. So DJ and Davonne, welcome to the show. I'm so glad to have you on the Purpose of Money Podcast. Today, I want to learn a little bit more about both of your platforms. And then we're going to give our guests a special glimpse into a event I am so proud to be a part of called How to Build an Empire- the Blueprint to Generational Wealth, which is a virtual conference coming up on June 30. So Davonne, Ladies first, tell us a little bit more about you and Jessica Meyers. And how you came together to start Epiq Collective.

Davonne Reaves 4:26

Sure. Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for having us during the show. But um, my name everyone is Davonne Reaves. I am which you consider all things hospitality, or are things pineapples, a pineapple is the international several for hospitality. But my background is totally learning how to power them in the industry and probably for close to 15 years now. And I actually got my start off working at the front desk at a hotel in Atlanta, Georgia. And I just fell in love with the industry and so my backgrounds in operations, asset management, hotel development, feasibility study, and I just fell in love with the industry. And about a couple years ago, and Jessica and I, who is my business partner, we actually met at Georgia State while we were in undergrad years ago. And she her background is mostly in residential. And I said, "Hey, you know what, let's do commercial real estate!" Because she's really good at sales. And I said, "Investor Relations or group economics.: I said, "You know what, let's come together. And let's do something in commercial real estate. " At the time, she didn't realize that you could own hotels. And I said, "Yeah, you know, let's merge expertise." And we came up with Epiq Collective. Epiq Collective we are a fund or commercial real estate training, where we focus on investing in hotels, in multifamily real estate.

Acquania Escarne 5:59

That's so dope. I'm so glad you mentioned that because one of the episodes this month I talked about multifamily real estate and syndication deals. And we had two ladies from Paragon Partners on the podcast to talk about that a little bit. So I'm kind of excited that now we have the hotel ownership perspective. But I want to give DJ an opportunity to talk about Black Equity Network and what you're doing to bring together black entrepreneurs and other business ventures.

DJ Moultrie 6:26

Sure. And thank you so much for allowing us an opportunity to speak today. At Black Equity Network, our focus is how do we have the right conversations with the right people? Right now, I'm on podcasts with two people who have been on our podcast and both of you are doing tremendous work and have some of the highest listens to our episodes. And our job is to highlight people like you because if we know who's in our network, we're going to be more valuable that way. And so that's our job is to find all the great people within our community, within our culture, in business and investing, and find a way to bring them together.

Acquania Escarne 7:08

I'm glad you mentioned that because we're recording on Juneteenth. And we're bringing together descendants of ancestors who were freed years and years ago and able to bring people together on a conversation that is only going to uplift and empower black communities. I mean, the ability to even have access to investing in real estate and hotel ventures, and having a podcast we can share this information with our community is just amazing in itself, but to have Black Equity Network there as well, connecting people so we can do ventures together is just going to make us stronger. So I want to know how the two of you got together to brainstorm this amazing idea to launch How to Build an Empire, a virtual conference?

Davonne Reaves 7:51

DJ mentioned um I was actually on his podcast. I talked about investing in hotels and a lot of people especially in the black community, they do not realize that there's an opportunity to invest in hotel ownership. Currently, less than 2% of the hotels in the United States are currently owned by black folk or African Americans. And I have a passion to not only increase women hotel owners, so you know, black hotel owners as well. And so I just had that conversation with DJ last year. We definitely just, you know, stay connected. And then we were, I was featured on his podcast again with my business partner, Jessica Meyers. And we talked about, you know, Epiq Collective and doing, you know, commercial real estate projects collectively. And it's a funny story, and it's amazing. You know, how things work in the universe, and actually, our former intern, he listened to my initial podcast with DJ and he contacted me on Linkedin. He heard me talking about hotels and he thought it was pretty dope, but he contacted me on Linkedin. . And he was just like, "hey, I want to learn about commercial real estate. You know, can I you know, work with you all?" I said,"you know, we do have an internship opportunity available sign up to become an intern. He did an amazing job." We were so sad once his internship ended, but he was so great. And we had an opportunity now he-we contracted him to actually be a Project Manager for our Investment Development Project. So it's just amazing how things work. And DJ and I, we connected through Instagram. And then I got on his podcast, and then you know, Jessica, and I got onto his podcast, and then we got an intern who's now project manager on a mixed use development project that we're working on in Augusta, Georgia. And then we now we're circling back around, and we're doing a virtual conference on generational wealth and the importance of building an empire. And the important importance of teaching a community about generational wealth. So it's just amazing how the universe works. And I'm just so glad that we're here to bring-not only have this conversation, but to bring a wealth of knowledge from we're bringing experts, real estate brokers, commercial real estate brokers who have experience in hotels. We're bringing brokers who have experience in multifamily. We have a mortgage company, the only black home mortgage company, we have a wellness nine coach who's going to be a presenter. We also have had so many people. We have financial coaches, we have so many different sessions to really break down into help-and to educate people, how they can create generational wealth and so they're just doing their traditional paths. We're not going through the traditional path but what I've been seeing a lot on Instagram is you know more single family. Which is nothing wrong, there's nothing wrong with single family is nothing wrong with it at all or or investing in you know, having duplexes or because I have a duplex that I'm renting out so I completely get or understand it. That's still generating, that's still creating generational wealth. But the reason why we created this conference because we wanted to open people's mind and DJ, now we have, you know, similarities or the same thought process when it comes to this. We want to have different conversations and challenging people's minds to get people to think outside of the box. And I love his podcast because he talks about conversations that a lot of people that I'm not seeing on, you know, Instagram, or they're not seeing out on social media or in different podcasts. So he's challenging and having those difficult and uncomfortable conversations. And so that's why we're coming together because we both have pretty much the same mindset. And we both have a passion to helping people within our community create generational wealth. One of the keynote speakers and her name is Carolyn Young, as she is the wife of Ambassador Andrew Young. And just a little history nugget for those who don't know who he is. Ambassador Andrew Young, was a doctor Martin Luther King's right hand man during the Civil Rights Movement. He was one of the first Congressman from Georgia since reconstruction. He was also the second black mayor in Atlanta. He helped bring the Olympics to Atlanta. And he was also the ambassador to the United Nations under President Jimmy Carter's administration. And the reason why we're bringing her on the virtual conference, is because we want people in our generation to hear her story to understand, you know, generational wealth to really understand what it looks like to build legacies and what can be done. So a lot of times, you know, we see people, you know, talking about generational wealth, but we wanted to bring people who actually experienced and were able to benefit from that. We also have a speaker who inherited commercial land from her father, and she's one of the three black owners of commercial land owners in Atlanta. So she's even going to be speaking about, you know, how she was able to to benefit from generational wealth. So, those are some of the things and those are the conversations because we want to plant seeds in people's mind.

Acquania Escarne 13:03

Absolutely. And I think it's amazing that you're providing this venue where you can get so many different types of information about real estate investing. So if someone is exploring the topic, they have a few ways in which they can take a deep dive into the topic. And I think it's great that you mentioned, you're not just presenting people who have the passion to create generational wealth, you're bringing people who have created it, and have benefited from it and can speak firsthand. As to the value of generational wealth. DJ, I want to get your honest opinion, what is the barrier that is preventing so many people of color from leaving generational wealth or pursuing it, so they have something to leave a legacy with?

DJ Moultrie 13:47

Desire. I used to be heavy in the church and heavy into the Bible. And one thing I learned is what the enemy is trying to do at all times, is take your desire away. If I can take your want away, your drive to be something greater than you are now, if I can just take that away from you, then I got you defeated already. I don't even have to do anything else, you know to you. And so some people do not go towards generational wealth because they don't have the desire to. They know there's they haven't been exposed to something that would make them have that desire. And some people will say that that's done systematically. Certain people have advantages over other people. And so I think it's our responsibility if we come across this knowledge, if we come across this information, to share with as many people as we possibly can, so they can have the necessary tools and resources and proper desires in place to go towards this journey.

Acquania Escarne 14:50

I agree. I think there is definitely a need for you to personally pursue it and have the passion to do it right? Because none of the ventures we've talked about are lazy ventures that require no work. Everything requires some type of effort, even if the outcome is passive income. So I'm all about money and getting the passive income in dividends, any type of return that comes with your real estate investment, but you still have to do work in the beginning. So tell me a little bit more Davonne. What are the type of work did you have to put in to make this conference happen? You know, how long have you guys been working on this so that they can be the best event possible?

DJ Moultrie 15:31

DJ just mentioned about having a desire as far as you know, to answer you know, he was answering your question, but I want to add to it. A lot of times it comes with not even having the desire or the want, you know, to change your your surroundings, but you also have to have a different mindset. And I'm noticing that a lot of things and a lot of content is surrounded by having that mindset. About having you know, that awareness or that access to knowledge to get to where you want to be. But if you don't have that mindset, you can have all the access to anything. But if you don't have that mind the mindset to take action on it, then will it actually, you know, come to fruition? And with this conference, what we're trying to do is try to help people, if they have a desire that they have decided they want to create generational wealth, they know they want to do it, but they don't know the different avenues to do it. So then now we're now now we're providing that information, at least just planting the seed. But then also, if you have a mindset that you want to change it, and you may not necessarily know how or you want to hear more information as far as like how you can shift your mindset, this conference can help too. Because you're hearing from a lot of different you know, speakers who are, you know, in the space and you're also you have an opportunity to network with people as well and who may have a mindset that you're trying to achieve. We're trying to get there, you know, because the mindset that I had 10 years ago, definitely not the same mindset that I have now. And I realized that and I'm aware of it. And now because I have a child, my mindset is completely different. All I think about is creating generational wealth, you know, because I want to create a legacy that I want to leave to my son, in that way I plant the seeds of him, and then he leaves it to his children, his children's children, and that's, that's generational wealth. That's what this conference is going to be talking about, you know, giving you ideas, you know, helping you with your mindset, you know, giving you the tools or the fundamentals, even if for some reason that he wants to be an entrepreneur, and that's perfectly fine. Sometimes there's a lot of content out there that's like pushing entrepreneurship, and we have to realize that it's not everybody wants to be an entrepreneur, and that's perfectly fine. My brother, for example, he never want to be an entrepreneur, you know, he can be CEO of a company, but it needs to already be established. He just does not. And that's perfectly okay. You know, my dad, he retired as a fireman, he does not understand entrepreneurship, he understands you work for a pension and that's it and you retire from it. So we have different, we have different, I guess, conversations or panel discussions. If you're thinking about entreprenurship and we just want to set it out, and maybe you don't have the fundamentals, or the know how, and so this conference is good for you, as well. We also have sessions who are for people who were already entrepreneurs or they already you know, have you know, their businesses establish and are just looking to diversify their portfolio maybe, you know, they've done extremely well in single family, or they've done extremely well in retail or restaurants and now they're thinking about investing in multifamily or hotels, you know, we have people who can speak to that. So that's kind of give you a little insight of what this conference will be about.

Acquania Escarne 18:58

Great. I really appreciate that. And I think you're right. I tell people all the time, don't try to pursue entrepreneurship, if it's not for you. In fact, I think you should try it out first as a side hustle. And if you are able to succeed and maybe be or exceed your income as a side hustle, then maybe you can consider it as a full time opportunity. But it's okay to just be someone who invests money, or someone who's aware of the strategies but doesn't take it on as a full time job. And I don't think anybody will judge you for that. Because some people want that 9 to 5 security, the paycheck, the pension, and then the additional wealth that they can create by using their job as their first investor in their side hustles. And I think it's important for people to know that that's okay. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't educate themselves about other opportunities. What do you think about it, DJ?

DJ Moultrie 19:53

You know, I just I was sitting there listening and really taking it in. I think the key is is the word generational. Because I think many people want to make money. They want to, you know, figure out how to be successful. But when we say generational, so now we're not talking about just you. We're talking about, you know, beyond, you know, your children's children. And so that means if we're thinking, you know, that far out, we're talking about 25, 50, 100 years out. So that means you got to have a strong foundation and with everything that's shifting, you know, currently in culture and society, now's the time if you haven't done it before, now's the time to get a solid foundation for building generational wealth. That is going to be to me the key going forward for our community and for our culture.

Acquania Escarne 20:44

Interesting. And they do say that some families who aren't familiar with having wealth and don't know how to handle it could lose it within three generations of someone creating it. So, I do think it's important that we encourage people to change their mindset to pursue building generational wealth. But at the same time, we need to be teaching our family how to maintain generational wealth, with financial literacy, education, and really instilling in families the importance of managing your money well and teaching everyone how to be responsible financially. Davonne, do you have a strong financial background? Did you always have the financial literacy sense to pursue these types of ventures? Or did you kind of fall into it from your...

Davonne Reaves 21:34

That's a good question. My grandmother, I'm a grandma hero. Grandma, you know, folks is listening who lived at Grandma's dearly. I'm one of them. And my grandmother, she grew up basically as a sharecropper and she grew up like dirt poor and you know, she basically had education. She had was an eighth grade education. And you know, she was a yeah, she was a nurse's assistant, I believe. And she when she retired her hourly rate after 32 years of working, the highest she ever made was $8.32 ce an hour. Now, my grandmother passed away with no debt. She left us two real estate properties that were paid. And when she passed away, her funeral was paid for. Now I told y'all how she grew up from very humble beginnings. 13 children her she's best, her mother had 19 children 13 of them lived to adulthood. And while they were growing up in a small town in rural Georgia, It was a 13 children or 15 people, so two adults and 13 children in a two bedroom home.

Acquania Escarne 22:50

Wow.

Davonne Reaves 22:51

And she moved to Philadelphia, and she's started her life and I said,"Grandma, right?" And she traveled anywhere in the world she wanted to go to. She traveled to just about every Island you can think of in the Caribbean. She pays everything in cash. She didn't believe in debt. And I say, "Grandma, how could you survive off at $8.32 cents?" So my first job as a front desk agent I was making $10 an hour. "How can you How could you have this lifestyle and you're only making $8.32 an hour?" And she said she saved, but she paid more. So let's say she got a little extra on her paycheck. So she'll pay a little bit more in electric bill. So you know, every time she got a little money, she say, Did she say that she was big on saving? And she will always say, "Davonne, you know, you never know what can happen. You got to keep moving. " And I was like, "Oh Grandma you'll be fine." "You got to keep living because you know, I may get old enough and you know, you may have to put me in assisted living home you know, medical but you never know what happens. So you always have to be prepared for a rainy day." As a child, you know, wasn't really paying attention like that, but now I see why she lives the way she lives and her discipline, you know, it helps me think. Okay, 90 older when I'm in retirement, I want to have multiple streams of income coming in. And you know, she wasn't solely dependent on Social Security. You know, I see other grandparents, or other people who they are only their only livelihood, you know, if you know, one, one income, and it can be difficult or challenging. And I look at other people who have multiple streams of income at their retirement and that you mentioned something, but you mentioned something about retaining it. I you mentioned also talking about how we both agreed on, you know, how entrepreneurship is not for everyone. And I have a relative of mine. He was actually a fireman, fireman his entier life. And he learned about real estate investing. You know, while he was, while he had a full time job over 50 years ago. So he's been investing in real estate for years and they have you know, number of units in their portfolio. And so not only did he keep his nine to five, but he got units along the way. He started off with a Duplex. And He then he grew, you know, to a Triplex and he just kept growing and growing and growing. You know, now he's retired. But he has all this cash flow coming in, you know, he has multiple streams of income coming in at retirement. So he kept his nine to five, so he's still getting his pension. You know, he's still get those benefits. But I think a lot of people don't realize when you're entrepreneurship, a lot of those things out there like benefit your retirement, like, a lot of those, you know, expense accounts. That was the first thing that kind of hit me when I got into the entrepreneurship world. Those expense accounts leaving into benefits. But those are the things you know, I looked at, but when you don't have that, right mindset, or when that's not ingrained in you, it can definitely cause problems. I was actually reading the book called Mindset Millionaire. So for those for people who have an issue with managing their finances, it's stems, you have to take a look, you have to take a step back and think about how you were brought up. Because if you keep focusing on what you're doing now, you're going to continue you're going to continue to do it. If you if you look at how you were brought up and how you were raised, what kind of financial habits were you taught? And once you realize the, the bad financial habits that you were taught, and you're able to change. You can learn and try to figure out to change that mindset to change it. I didn't always listen to my grandmother. I'ma be honest, I didn't like my grandmother, but my grandmother also Wasn't she didn't understand the stock market. So she she was more of a she came from a time where you know, you don't put the money in the bank, the bank because they thought blalck you know, they stole black people's money. So she didn't believe in it. And if you talk to a lot of older people, they say the same thing. Don't keep all the money in the bank. You know, because of the Great Depression and everything. We have a weekly conversation after collective on our Faccebook live page, we actually brought in the financial advisor. And she mentioned the key thing that before you get into investing, you need to have your personal finances in order. So if your personal finance is in order is part that you get for the life cycle, you invest, you can't get your money back out. So when you're investing in property that needs to invest in any type of investment, it's really shouldn't be anything that you can't get your money immediately out. Especially if you're investing in commercial real estate or you the type, or, you know, any particular fund because sometimes it's a three to five year hole where you can't get your money out.

Acquania Escarne 27:36

But I think you raised a lot of good points. Even though your grandmother wasn't well versed in the stock market, she knew how to save her money and how to live a life that she could afford to live. And that was a lesson in itself right? It didn't always maybe make sense to you or was it even evidence to you? Like you might not have known the details and how she was paying for everything but you realized that when she passed, and she was able to give real estate to the family, not burden them with the cost of a funeral, and other things that you learn from, and I think that's valuable. And I agree that there are some generations who have a different mindset towards how you build wealth, or how you live your life, because maybe in her case, she wasn't focused on building wealth, she was focused on not accumulating debt, not living a life like she couldn't afford. It ended up building wealth, right? And you have been able to see that for what it was worth and hopefully are instilling similar, you know, habits into your family, but at the same time, you're taking it to the next level, because rather than stay away from the stock market, you're learning about it. I think it's really awesome that you're taking that knowledge and you're applying it to what you're doing to help others learn about it, too. So before we wrap up, I want to ask DJ if you have any final thoughts and then of course, I want you to tell my listeners, how do they find out more about the conference? And how can they find Epiq Collective and Black Equity Network online?

DJ Moultrie 29:08

Definitely. So Acquania, I have to know because you're going to be a moderator at our conference on June 30 for our key players on the team panelist. So just a sneak preview, if you could, what type of questions are you thinking of asking or what what are some topics that are on your mind as you are approaching that day?

Acquania Escarne 29:34

So I am always trying to first set the balance in the room because you don't know what people in the audience know. And sometimes they are afraid to ask the basic questions. So I'm gonna ask the speakers outright, how did they get started? Because everyone needs to understand, is it really a barrier to entry or is it just me thinking there's a barrier to entry? And a lot of times, it's just knowing that you need to understand the concept and then take action. So and how do I get started needs money too like, I want numbers. You don't have to tell me specifically what you spent to get started. But what is my range? What should I be shooting for? Because sometimes that's feasible for people if they have a sense of how much they need to save or invest. And then of course, any strategies that can help facilitate getting to that same place, but doing it either with other people's money or partnerships.

DJ Moultrie 30:28

Right.

Acquania Escarne 30:29

Is definitely something I want them to address as well, because sometimes people are better with accountable partners and other people involved. Also, a lot of the things that we pursue, you can't do alone. I mean, hotel acquisitions normally require a group of investors, so they need to understand that you'll be one of many, but how do you get into that group? Who do you have to know to get into the circle that's talking about these ventures? Because unfortunately, a lot of them are not public or they can't be public because the SEC says you cannot advertise this opportunity to non accredited investors, or someone who doesn't already know or have a business relationship with the person doing the deal. So those are the types of things I want to kind of get out there, get the speakers to explain, and help our audience understand so that they can walk away from the conference knowledgeable and ready to take action.

DJ Moultrie 31:24

I definitely think that's going to happen with those questions. I look forward to seeing you know, how it plays out, how the answers come out. And then what else inspires. I think that's the key is as you're feeding off of everybody's energy and you're learning new things, it gives everybody opportunity to evolve and learn something new. So you know, come to learn, come to grow, and come to evolve and get ready for the keynote speakers, who will then you know, talk to you about how they've maintained their empire.

Acquania Escarne 31:59

Exactly. So you guys tune in, I'll be there, I hope you'll be there too. I have a link that I will include in the show notes. So you can buy your tickets now. There are early bird tickets, and they're on sale, but they're not going to be there forever. And if you're being very money conscious, you might as well get the early bird ticket, while you can.

Davonne Reaves 32:21

Get the early bird ticket it's $25. It's going to be in the link. You're going to love the conference, you're going to enjoy it. It's June 30, from 10am to 4pm. We're going to start off with the health and wellness and then we're going to end with the creative way of networking and finding a deal.

Acquania Escarne 32:44

So we're doing all things in a new way. This is a virtual conference guys. So again, you do not have to leave your home, you can tune in online. Please join us all day so we can have you and your interests and your questions and then creatively network at the end. So I'm gonna do my best to promote this E Epiq Collective event and Black Equity Network. How do we find you guys online? I want my listeners to connect to follow you, to really support your ventures and whatever you do. DJ, go for it.

DJ Moultrie 33:16

Well, you could find us on Instagram @BlackEquityNetwork. You can go to our menu and listen to our Black Equity Premium and Black Equity podcast. And also, you can learn more about our ongoing events and different partnerships that we have going on.

Acquania Escarne 33:37

Excellent and Davonne, how can I learn more about you and Jessica?

Davonne Reaves 33:41

Everyone can find us on Instagram @epiqcollective, and you can find it from there. As well as sign up for our mailing list to hear about potential deals that we have or if you are looking to invest into multifamily or hotel deals or just learn more about it. You can reach us on Instagram.

Acquania Escarne 34:08

Excellent. So guys, I want you to listen to this episode and then I want you to share with two other people and make sure they buy tickets to How to Build an Empire: the Blueprints to Generational Wealth June 30 from 10 to 4pm. This is a virtual conference you don't want to miss. While you're listening to the podcast, please tag me @ThePurposeofMoney on Instagram. Let us know you're listening. And don't forget to leave a review wherever you hear the podcast. Thanks again everybody. Until next time, keep building generational wealth $1 at a time.

Hey guys, I hope you really enjoy that conversation. I had a really good time just talking about the upcoming conference How to Build an Empire which don't forget is June 30, from 10am to 4pm. I will leave a link in the show notes for you to buy tickets and I hope that you book your ticket today. Early Bird Tickets are going fast, but they're only $25. If you sign up now, I hope to see you guys there. I'll be doing a panel myself where I'll moderate a conversation about who you need on your team. There are plenty more topics they're gonna dive into during the event. And I don't want you to miss the creative networking at the end either. So check out the show notes. Get your tickets today, and I can't wait to see some of you guys virtually on June 30.

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