Episode 20: How To Manifest Your Dreams with Cha Jones

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Hey welcome back to the Purpose of Money podcast. I'm so excited. Today's guest is Cha Jones. Cha is an inspiring and motivating international speaker, expatriate coach, and author of Every Girl Needs her Pearls and the New Urban International Migration. She is also the founder and chief executive officer of expat women of color as a self proclaimed nomadic chick. She's lived and worked in South Korea for over three years traveled to countries like China, Japan, Malaysia, Hong Kong and the Dominican Republic. Her traveling stories and advice can be found on blogs such as Women of Color Living Abroad, the Nomadic Chick, My Soul to Seoul and Black Atlas. Oh, this is so exciting. There's gonna be a really good conversation. Cha, welcome to the show.

Cha Jones 1:55

Thank you for having me.

Acquania Escarne 1:59

I didn't mention this in the bio, but we're actually going to take some time today to talk about your latest venture, You Can Manifest, a six week guided dream goal journal that you just created. And I'm so excited to dive into that. But before we tell listeners about how they can manifest their dreams, can you tell our listeners a little bit more about yourself?

Cha Jones 2:20

Sure, well, you already said I'm a coach. And so I'm not just the expat coach. I also do transformation coaching as well as intercultural coaching, which basically means that I work with individuals who, as an expat are moving from one country to the other, and they're trying to culturally adapt, so where I get an understanding. Also, I help them figure out like, people who have never lived abroad, maybe haven't even really travelled, how to do it. And then in transformations, it's really helped people get from A to Z, best way that they know how, and find out the different ways that they can actually navigate living on purpose. And then as the intercultural coach, I work with organizations, mostly fortune 500 companies who are sending people from one country to the next country to do a global assignment. And normally those are three to five years normally uprooting their whole entire family. So I work with the families just to make sure that they are culturally adjusted and that they know how to work the norms of the business as well as the culture. And so I do that. And then I'm also a new mom. So I have that new title. Boy mom.

Acquania Escarne 3:39

I love it. I am a mom of two boys myself, and I think it is a special woman that has to bring into this world young men and have the energy to chase after all things they want to do.

Cha Jones 3:52

Right.

Acquania Escarne 3:53

So welcome, and congratulations for that. This is a special way of motherhood I guess you can call it. I love what you said! So you are really helping promote cultural adaptability for people who are for the first time or maybe for a longer period of time traveling overseas. I know a lot of people can do a week vacation at hotels and resorts. But when you talk about relocating to a new country, that can come with a lot of anxiety as well as things to do culture to learn and things to be more aware of, trust me, as a diplomat who's lived overseas a couple of times I can tell you, no move is the same. And no culture is identical. So it does take some preparation. So I love the fact that you're helping people with that. What inspired you to pursue that line of work

Cha Jones 4:46

I don't think it was inspired per se, I've always been very diplomatic in the sense that I really like different people, and I like being able to find the common ground for everybody so that everybody is happy. And that's difficult when you deal with people, especially different people from different personalities to different social economics to, you know, different cultures, but I've always been even when I go back to even as a child, I always was that child that I could not really play both sides, but I definitely could like the bad kids. The smart kids, the not so smart kids. I was always the one in the middle of like, no, but we can all play together. And I just think that it kind of helped me morph into the person that I am today. But more importantly, when I talk about manifesting, I manifested my experience in Korea. I literally sat on my couch one day, and this was like 2008, I guess? Yeah, was 2008 and I was literally sitting on my couch and Barack Obama had just became president. And all things looked great. But we were also about to go through an economic crisis. And I had been laid off and just got my coaching certification. And I was doing emotional intelligence coaching. And everything was working, but it wasn't. And I was like there has to be more to life. And I literally laid down and before I went to sleep, I was like, I really want to see the world. And I put that out there and I said it out loud to me and my, you know, apartment in South Charlotte at the time. And I put that out there fell asleep and literally woke up five hours later, and when I checked my email, I had a recruiter had contacted me and said,"Hey, we saw your resume online. We thought that you would be a good fit for this experience. Could you check it out and let us know?" And I looked at it and was like, "You gotta be kidding. Like, who goes to a whole foreign country and work like this? Like, this is not real." So I looked at the website, did my research, and I was like, the only thing I really knew about Korea was M*A*S*H. I used to watch that as a kid.

Acquania Escarne 7:22

Wow that's a bit!

Cha Jones 7:24

And that was like, the Korean War. That's literally all I knew. And I was like, yeah, and I knew that they had the Olympics in Seoul. And so I was like, "Yeah, no, I'm good." And I deleted it. And because I had put that out in the universe, I believe that it came right back because I deleted it. Two days later, my girlfriend called me She's like, "sit down. You're about to think I'm crazy, but you're the only other person that I know who is as crazy who would do this?" And I'm like,"Oh my God. What's she concocted now?" "No, no, no. Listen, I apply a couple weeks ago to go work in Japan." Oh, like Japan? Who does that? So she was like,"Listen, I got accepted, but I can go with a partner. And so you can come and be my partner. "And I was like, "so what am I gonna do?" She was like, "you're gonna do what I'm gonna do!" and I was like, "And that is?" She was like, "teach!" And I was like "I'm not a teacher! I'm a a regional marketing coordinator, like, I coordinate marketing events and put up shots and that's what I do. She was like, "That's your offload trainer." And I was like,"Yeah, but teach who? Who am I teaching" She was like, "Kids" I was like, "yeah, I'm good."

I went my undergrad was in elementary education. I was like, Yeah, no, I did that in AmeriCorps. And it was the worst. It was the best and worst experience of my life. So I was like "Nah I'm good" And so she's like, "No, just look at the information." So she sends it to me, I look at it. And I'm like, whatever. So I go ahead and apply the lady calls me the next day and she was like, "Listen, can we do your interview now? I think you're a great candidate." And I was like, Sure. So we did the interview. And when we get done, she was like," I'm gonna forward you to a school and I think this would be great. However, cancel Japan, would you be willing to go to Korea?" and I was like,literally, like what what's the coincidence? And I was like, I don't believe in coincidence. I believe in synchronicity so alright let's go with it. Obviously, the Universe is sending me to Korea. There's something that is in Korea for me because the showed up and this is the second time this week, and what's the odds? So we'll play the lottery and we'll go to Korea

Acquania Escarne 9:55

And you won!

Cha Jones 9:58

I think Korea

Acquania Escarne 9:59

Wow. That's amazing. And I love how you continued to resist the path in which you were clearly going. And then you finally got on board with life. So that's awesome. And I love the way you presented the example because it wasn't like you said, a lot of people don't believe in coincidence. Like it's all meant to be. It's just a matter of you getting on board. And so you had an email immediately after you went to sleep and said, I want to see the world and a friend who you trusted, presented it to you as well. So you were more open to the idea. But then what she presented you wasn't even an option. And then Korea is back on the table. So tell us a little bit about your experience in Korea. We said you were there for three years correct?

Cha Jones 10:46

Mmhmm

Acquania Escarne 10:46

What is it that you loved most about living abroad? And what is it that you like the least?

Cha Jones 10:52

So and it's so funny because, like literally, and this is part of manifestation or my belief on how manifestation has always worked in my life. And I've been going or I've known about manifestation like my entire life. My mother you know she's a black mom and you know, you pray about it, you wait, you put it out there, let it go, it comes to you. That's-that's how she taught it. And I was like, "what? Who does this? But when when the secret came out a few years back and when they started talking about I was like, that's just you just ask God! That's prayer and faith! This ain't no secret! I waited all this time for that?!

But my experience in Korea, it all lines up! Like I literally showed up in Korea, like not knowing anything other than what I had researched on my own. I didn't have any cultural understanding other than what I made, you know, assumptions of what I had watched on YouTube and you have to think about this is like in 2008- 2009. And like, all of the technology that we have now, we were like on the brink of that. Where it's just like had started like Facebook was like, not even a year old for mainstream. And so all of that played a part because it made it a little bit easier to adjust because I still could tap into Skype, I could. And people it's funny because sling is like really big now and you can just like everybody has sling. Well at that time, you had to have a sling box, and you have to hook it up to your computer at somebody's house in the states and then have a piece that was connected to your computer and you could tap into sling and you could tap into that house in the US. And so I would turn on and off TV scare people who would come to my Aunt's house. And you know all of this was happening.So I was on the brink of technology. And now that seems like ages ago, like dinosaur stuff, but at that time, everything was new. So my experience in Korea was eye opening. But I learned that once I got to Korea like they were light years ahead of us in technology, so I was like, you can order food at the subway and by the time you get home, it's at your house like what? What is this?And they have mopeds that they would do deliveries of McDonald's, and I didn't really eat McDonald's, but I was like, What? So I got off the plane with like, open eyes. And I think one of the things that was really important, and I tell everybody who's going to go live in a different culture is that you have to be open to the opportunity. When you, if you talked about resist, when you resist, you stop not only only your blessings, but you make everything difficult, and so I went to Korea, very open. Like, you know what? I'm not here to manipulate anything I'm going to allow. I'm just gonna allow as things come up I'm just gonna say yes to them. And I'm not gonna be like, "ehh"

Now food was challenging because I don't eat at the time I didn't eat beef. I don't eat pork, and I'm finicky about smells like things that stink-not so good. So it was very challenging because everything they had pork. And the smell of pork just makes me sick. I will instantly get a migraine in my head like pounds for a day. And so I'm walking through, you know, town and all I smell is pork and I'm like, God, I'm not gonna go but I kept saying, I'm gonna say yes, I'm just gonna go through the experience. So Korea was actually very easy because I was saying yes, and even when I would have challenges I would realize, okay, what is this here to teach me? versus when you come at me like "Oh I can't believe I'm going through this!" I would just be like, "what is this? What do I need to get out of my way to to accept and receive this?" And things just got easier. I met the right people. Like literally two days in, I got on the subway went to some form but no cell phone. No, nobody know where I'm at. I have no way of communicating. I just got an email with some directions. And I followed those directions and met a group of people. We went on an adventure and they were like, "How long have you been out?" And I was like, oh, two days? They like, "and you already came out?" no cell phone, no way of nothing like, what if we weren't here? We missed these out like, well, I would have explored this subway face. So I just kept saying yes, and the experience has kept getting better. And I kept showing up and the experience has kept showing up and the right people kept showing up. And that's the thing when you say yes to life, then life will present you all the things that you need to help move you and direct you in the right direction. And when you quit saying yes or you quit or when you when you stop saying yes, you start resisting, that's where things start to happen. And you had those mishaps or miscommunications or just just things that fall apart. That's what happens and so Korea for me was great, and it -I never intended to come back to United States that's a whole nother story. I feel like I got bamboozled. That's a whole nother story! But I never intended to come back. And I love the culture. I even love like my very hard times because I did have some hard times in Korea where I was just like, "Really?" Like, "these people are coming at me like this?" Then I had to be like, "no, what am I here to learn?" And then it would just kinda subside. And I would learn something and keep moving.

Acquania Escarne 17:12

I love it. And I appreciate you being honest that not all of your experiences abroad will be roses and wonderful. But mindset really helps you refocus on that situation and make the best out of it. So it sounds like it's not just about positive thinking, but also an open mindset. Even in the midst of the unknown, you literally moved to a foreign country, you had no idea what to expect. You didn't even know where you were going in some cases, and you still maintained the open mindset of I'm going to embrace this experience this opportunity and see where life leads me. So I do think that's really important because for you, you're basically saying that is what sets the foundation for other opportunities to present themselves. And that's how you really get to manifesting the life you want. So let's talk about that! And how it led to where you are now, where you were able to create, You Can Manifest? What specifically inspired this book at this time, because you've written before, and what is it that you want to accomplish through this journal?

Cha Jones 18:24

Yeah, so for this particular journal, it was really intentional. Because several things, I sat down, I was like, "Okay, what's my purpose?" Like and I think you have to continue to reevaluate to what your purpose is because you start off with one purpose, and then as you morph into this person, then things change and you change and so you then need to reevaluate, okay, so not that this isn't part of my purpose, but my purpose has changed and now I have to change. And so once I came back from Korea, which was not again intended, I then had to be intentional about how do I shift? And repatriation for a lot of people was very difficult because and that is not something that people talk about. And companies aren't really even good at it like still today, Fortune 500 companies are not really good at it. Now the government and the military are great at it. But for companies they just send you back and be like, okay, you came from that country? You know how to do that. No, I'm different. So coming back is totally different because now these people are foreign to me even though we share the same blood. They don't know me like, I know me, and I don't know them because they've had time to change and morph into different human beings as well. So coming back was extremely difficult. Once I did come back and I started to move and shake, I guess like normal, I started to think about things differently. And so that's when I started to Expat Women of Color. And we're helping women move abroad as well as get the education that they need as far as culturally, being a sound and being respectful cultures when they went in. And then some other things changed. And then I found myself in a position where I was like, "Okay, now what's next?" And I had put on conferences and was, you know, doing some different things. And that's the point I sat down and I was like, you know, what, what do I do well? I manifest. I've been manifesting since the beginning of time, my time. And so I'm going to write about this. And my girlfriend's had been asked me I was like, "You know how to manifest like nothing else! Like when you say, "I'm going to do such and such," it happens! So why don't you get that space off?" Like, that's not my lane, like, totally not my way. And they were like, "no, but it is." So once I quit resisting, and I sat down and I started writing about it. I started thinking about like, literally, I had read, I think, was it 2015 or 16? I can't remember. So I just read the book, Shonda Rhimes wrote the Year of Yes. And I was saying yes to everything that came my way. And so at this point, I just got a diagnosis of diabetes. And I was like,"not on my watch. I'm not doing this." And so I told the doctor, "Look, I'm not gonna take your medicine. Give me 90 days, and I'll come back." And she was like, "Okay, I'll give you 90 days. But this is serious." And I was like, "Yeah, alright." So I went home. And I was like, "Look, I'm not I don't accept this. I do not have diabetes. I'm not accepting this. I'm going to move forward in my life, but I'm going to change my life." And literally, I started to manifest being whole and healthy. And I kept telling myself every morning when I woke up, I don't have this. Like, I'm healthy. I'm whole. I said that on my way to the gym, I said that when I got home and I was eating my berries, I like literally changed my whole entire diet. I didn't eat any meat, I didn't eat as many carbs. I checked the sugar count and carb counts on everything. If it had have more than 12 grams, I didn't eat it. And I just literally changed my life. And that was like starting this whole process of like, I'm literally going to be intentional about how I manifest everything in my life. And at at that time, I was transitioning and was like, "Okay, I'm gonna start looking for a full time job because I actually want to move from where I am." And things- not that they weren't working-they just weren't working like I wanted them to work. And I was getting tired and I was like, I don't feel like I'm in the right place anymore. And so literally, I manifested like my perfect job. If I was going to work for somebody, this needs to be perfect. And so I went out to Berkeley, got a job at Berkeley. And I was like,"I'm so excited." But things started to shift. And they offered me something I was like," no. " So I came to a point where I had to, like, sit down and be like," Okay, this is my perfect job. And it's coming to me in an imperfect way. How did I manifest this?" So I did everything. I sat down, I was like, okay, no, no, I'm at the brink of everything. But then I also had to realize that in manifesting, you manifest, you attract what you are. And so when they started coming to me with certain things, I was like, I had to know my purpose, and I have to know who I am. And I have to be in alignment with me. And even though this is appearing to be perfect, and it appears I've said yes to everything up into this point. And now I'm gonna be like, "no." Because this is not ideal for me, it's gonna put me in a very bad situation. And so I rejected their offer and came back with a different offer. I was like, "Okay, great." And then I read the fine print. And I was like, "No, this is not good." So I went back to them and I said, "Listen, I can accept these things, but it needs to come like this. And if we can do this, we can move forward." And they came back and said,"Nope", and I was like,"Okay, what does this mean?" And literally, it meant that I needed to say yes to me. And it meant that, as I was manifesting, I also had to understand that there are going to be things that present themselves that look like everything I want, but are not and it's here to test me. And so I was like, "No" and literally, I'm still going through this whole thing with the health care issue. I go back to the doctor. 90 days later, after I say no to this thing, and she was like, "It's not there." And I was like "work. Okay, goodbye." Great. And then literally, a phone call came the next week. And my girlfriend in DC was like,"Listen, come to DC, we can get everything that you want to do started in DC." And I literally say yes, came to DC. And then I didn't know what my next steps was. Weeks later, a old professor from my grad Institute called me and said, "Hey, I have this opportunity. Its dealing with epats and I want you to come in and consult on this project. " I was like, "okay." She's like, "The only caveat is that you have to be in DC. " And I was like, "Well, great, because I'm already in DC. " "That works. How about be in my office on Tuesday?"And I was like, "Okay, I can do that." And then things started to work out. But the thing was, I had to be aware that what was being presented, even though it looked like everything I wanted to, when it started to feel wrong, and then your gut is like, "Huh, that's not gonna work out, not like I intended," then you have to step back. And so you if people get it twisted that as their manifest and they think, "well everything's supposed to show up just like I want it to," it will. But if you're not ready for certain things, then you'll hit that bump in the road and it's just to test you, it's not to say you can't have it is to say, "Is this really how I'm aligning?" Or should I step back and be like, "okay, I really want that." And the other thing about manifesting there's a point where you have to detach and anything that you're attached to doesn't really work out. So you have to detach and say, "You know what, I'ma allow things to happen." "I'm going to allow" And the allowing part will then align you again. And then things start showing up just like the DC showed up and then the things just kept adding. And then eventually when that contract was over, another ideal job that was very aligned to the first one showed up and it was perfect. And everything just kind of worked out. And so, my girlfriends came to me and was like, "you know, you really are great manifester. You should write about it."And I was like, "not my wheelhouse. Not really, that's not what I'm trying to do." Again, resisting and then you get that call this like, Okay, I'm gonna sit down and do it. And I started thinking about how I got to DC, how I manifested, and literally how I manifested my child because I sat down and was like, "I'm ready universe. I want this." But I don't think I was ready. All the other times I asked you so now I'm ready. And if it's your will..." And I started talking to my child as if he was here-now I thought I was talking to a little girl that but that's a whole nother story. So like, "If you're ready, I'm ready. And I am willing to bring you forward, if it is the right time for you to enter this world."

And literally 30 days later, I was writing it and I was like, "Who the hell does this?"

So when they asked me to write about it, it was after all these things have happened. Then I sat down last year, and started to think about how do I manifest? And what is missing for people to pull the links? Because, yeah, the secret was great. And it touched on certain things.

But I had to go back to my black Mama, who, when I you know, my first job, she was like, "Okay, what did you say you want to do?" And I was like, "my friends work at Burger King." And she was like, "okay, but you said you will never" and I did. I said, "I never will work at fast food." "So like, so why would you now resort back to doing something that you said you would never do?" And I was like, "well, because they all have jobs and I don't like." "Well, that's their lane. You can't be in somebody else's lane. " And I was like, "But mom, I want money to go to the mall" She was like, "Have you stopped going to the mall?" And I was like, "No." So she was like, "so you okay." "So where do you want to work?"

And it was this like, box store, like, it was like a Target, WalMart, whatever. And I wanted to work there and she was like, "okay, go apply" and I said, "But I applied twice." And she was like, "Okay, I'm not worried about that. Apply again. But this is what you're going to do. You're gonna apply, you're gonna come home, you're gonna pray about it right before you go to sleep every day for the next five days. And then you're going to let it go. And if it does not happen within the next couple days after that, then then you can go work at Burger King with everybody else" And I was like, "okay, this ain't gonna work cuz that'll hurt stuff, right?" Like, hey, yeah, nothing to do with church, she was like, "you got to have faith to like, whatever it is that you want you can have. And she was like don't ever try to have something somebody else has because that's not for you. What is for you is for you, but you have to ask for, and then you have to believe that it's yours. And then you have to put it out there and then you have to let it go. Because you have to trust that is coming back to you. "

And I was like, "Huh." So my 13-14 year old self was like, "Yeah alright. " But I did it. And I did it so haphazardly like, "Ahh yay." And I wasn't attached to it. So I was like," I'm gonna go through the steps and whatever." And literally, the third day in, I got a call. That's when they used to call you and be like, "Hey, can you come in for the interview?" I came in for the interview. After the interview, I did a test And they literally was like, "you're hired." And then I went on to so training the next week and I had the job and I was like, "My Mama be knowing what she's talking about." And it was years it was like, literally when the secret came, this was like, two decades later that I'm sitting there watching you, like, that's having faith. And so the question about how to- how and why am I writing this book now is really because of what I've experienced. And I know that there are people who struggle with it. I have clients that come and literally, they're like, "I want to be in Tanzania by next year. But I don't think it's gonna happen and I need this data." And then they start telling me all the reasons why it can't happen. Well, no it's not gonna happen because you already said it's not and you put on these barriers. So you have to get out your way and then I have to teach them how to accept it again and speak it into existence and to be very mindful and intentional about what they want. And so that's why I'm excited about this book. Because not only is it something that I want to write about, it's something that I experienced. And I'm not just telling people what I think can happen. I'm telling people what I know for sure. When I sit down, and I'm very intentional by what I want, it will come to manifest because I'm intentional about it. And I'm knowing and it's not, I'm willing it to happen. I'm allowing it to happen. And that's important.

Acquania Escarne 30:40

I love that. And I love that you make it clear, it's about intentional action. And I'm telling you mamas always know best. So even when we try to deny what they're saying is true. We know the right thing to do and you put forth effort even as a 13-14 year old girl, and saw what could happen and then as an adult, you just continue to manifest and manifest and manifest. And I love it. So guys, her journal You Can Manifest is available on Amazon. And I will include more details on how you can get your own copy in my show notes. Make sure to click on the link and check it out. It's a great book that kind of walks you through the days each day and how you can manifest. It's a six week guided journal. So give yourself the time and focus so that you can get through it and then manifest your dreams. So Cha, before we go, I want you to please share with listeners how they can contact you whether it be on your website or social media.

Cha Jones 33:44

Sure! So they can go to my website which is simple Cha Jones so it's www.ChaJones-C-h-a J-o-n-e-s.com. And there it would give you links to my Facebook. But you can also reach me on facebook same- Chad Jones-or author Cha Jones at Facebook. And I have a group, Expat Women of Color, it's on Facebook as well for those who are interested in learning how to move abroad or connect with other women in different countries. And last time I checked, it was like 5463 people that are living at the time, it was like 32 different countries. And I think it's now up to 40 countries. So it's a great way to connect and network with women of color and it does not mean that you have to be black. There are Asians, there are Filipinos, there are Africans there. There are different cultures within the group. And then you can also on Wednesday, every Wednesday at 12 o'clock eastern standard time I do Ladies and Lunch. And it's also a networking opportunity where I interview or have a presenter, talk about their experience during this COVID-19 pandemic where things have changed. So we have to have a new norm. And normally, I would have like a brunch or lunch or something but can't have that in person. So I took it online where we're making, share the expertise, talk about what they're good at. And where mothers who are experiencing something totally different can talk about their experiences. So it's from the mother perspective it's from the working woman perspective, from the entrepreneurial perspective, but it's for women to celebrate themselves and to learn how to move differently in our normal. So that's Ladies and Lunch on on Facebook, and then just Cha Jones.

Acquania Escarne 35:47

I love it. And I love the fact that you are adapting to the new normal and trying to help empower women at the same time. If I remember correctly, we met because of a conference of yours. It was Ladies, Lipstick and Luggage. It was...

Cha Jones 36:05

Actually we met before that! we had Expat Women of Color and I did we did a podcast. When I was doing Nomadic Chick. And then you came to Nashville and I met you while you were working and networked that way and then when I did the conference, you became a speaker.

Yes. So you're doing it and I love it. You're adapting and still empowering women at the same time. Keep manifesting your dreams, guys. I want you to make sure you get her six week guided dream goal journal, You Can Manifest Your Dreams. And I want you to check out Cha Jones on Facebook and her website. If you're interested in her Wednesday, Lunch Brunch with the Ladies, feel free to sign up for that as well. And join her group Expat Women learning about more ways to adapt living abroad, traveling the world and manifesting your dreams. Thank you everyone for tuning into this week's podcast episode. If you really enjoyed it, please leave a review on Apple podcasts or Spotify. And make sure to share it with family and friends. Sharing is caring and I love to share this content with others who will enjoy it. Until next time, I hope all is well. Thank you. Bye.

Acquania Escarne 37:27

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